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Here are the notes on all of the discussions from today's General wording meeting session:
Lethal Force The United States federal government should substantially curtail its lethal use of force in foreign countries. -Force is more appropriate than weapons to separate out arms sales. -Change to deadly force and/or use of lethal force -DoD defines deadly force shows up a lot, but they are both used around police practices, but DOD uses deadly in context New wording The United States federal government should substantially curtail its use of deadly force in foreign countries. -Cort, we need to look for a geographic limiter or weapons systems -Like threat of use etc. -I ask the question about war powers or NFU as things that fall under the topic -Author does not want geographic, wants specific -My suggestion was use of military force -no response -Could we insert the word current? -Someone wants to insert “one or more foreign countries” A new change: (Final Wording)The United States federal government should substantially curtail its use of deadly force in other countries. No callback International Organizations The United States federal government should substantially increase its material support to one or more of the following: United Nations Environmental Programme, World Bank, World Health Organization. -I hate the phrase “material support” because it is about terrorism -Brian points out the past UN topic, was just support -Endpoint “support of” New wording: The United States federal government should substantially increase its support of one or more of the following: United Nations Environmental Programme, World Bank, World Health Organization. -Should we get rid of the other “of one or more of” and insert and and/or New wording: The United States federal government should substantially increase its support of: United Nations Environmental Programme, World Bank, and/or World Health Organization. -World bank vs world bank group -Development (WB) vs Development and corporate investment (WBG) -Should we get rid of the colon? -Yep New wording: The United States federal government should substantially increase its support of the United Nations Environmental Programme, the World Bank, and/or the World Health Organization. Minor mod, eliminate al from unep New wording: The United States federal government should substantially increase its support of the United Nations Environment Programme, the World Bank, and/or the World Health Organization. Supreme Court The Supreme Court of the United States should overturn one or more of the following: Ex Parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 (1942), Zivotofsky v. Kerry, 576 U.S. ___ (2015), Zivotofsky v. Clinton, 566 U.S. 189 (2012), Medellín v. Texas, 552 U.S. 491 (2008), United States v. Alvarez-Machain, 504 U.S. 655 (1992) or Sosa v. Alvarez-Machain, 542 U.S. 692 (2004). Or… The Supreme Court of the United States should overturn one or more of its decisions in one or more of the following areas: unlawful enemy combatants, enforcement of treaties, customary international law, extraterritorial application of United States law. -MS thought list of cases better, but we think the voting public might like the list better -Pam: Likes the case areas better than the case list -I agree, and talk about hiding a vegetables The committee votes on the second choice New wording: The Supreme Court of the United States should overturn one or more of its decisions in one or more of the following areas: unlawful enemy combatants, enforcement of treaties, customary international law, extraterritorial application of United States law. -do we want to get rid of the second one or more of? The Supreme Court of the United States should overturn one or more of its decisions in at least one of the following areas: unlawful enemy combatants, enforcement of treaties, customary international law, extraterritorial application of United States law. -------------Break The Arctic The United States federal government should substantially increase its support for international cooperation on sustainable development in the Arctic. -Cort would be ok with a topic that includes the military, Ruth agrees -Do we want to take out sustainable -Do we want the ecological tilt or not? New wording: The United States federal government should substantially increase its support for international cooperation in the Arctic. Human Trafficking The United States federal government should substantially increase its anti-human-trafficking assistance to Southeast Asia. Author proposes alternate wording: The United States federal government should substantially increase its diplomatic and/or economic pressure to reduce human trafficking in one or more of the following: Germany, Republic of Korea, Syria, India, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Democratic Republic of Korea, Russia, and/or China. -Author -Didn’t like southeast asia because it excludes places like india and other disadvantage ground, because we don’t care about some negative responses from countries but we do for others. -This uses the TVPA and tiers from countries on different areas of the list -Do we need to have official names of all countries -Sam: Do we like the word pressure? -Sam: Could we do just Asia? We went with the author’s wording. -But there is a callback at 2:30 Here is where we start with for the callback The United States federal government should substantially increase its diplomatic and/or economic pressure to reduce human trafficking in one or more of the following: Germany, Republic of Korea, Syria, India, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Democratic Republic of Korea, Russia, and/or China. She proposes The United States federal government should substantially increase its anti-human-trafficking diplomatic and/or economic aid toward one or more of the following: Germany, India, People’s Republic of China, Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. -My suggestion would be the top half of resolution 1 and the countries from resolution 2: (pam makes this a motion) The United States federal government should substantially increase its diplomatic and/or economic pressure to reduce human trafficking in one or more of the following: Germany, India, People’s Republic of China, Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. That fails…….. So stephanie proposes: The United States federal government should implement and enforce anti-human trafficking trade sanctions against one or more of the following: Germany, India, People’s Republic of China, Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. -Discussion about whether or not sanctions can be topically lifted -Proposal to remove trade from the list (susan) Now playing with this---in addition to the first two The United States federal government should implement and enforce anti-human-trafficking sanctions against one or more of the following: Germany, India, People’s Republic of China, Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. -Cort hates this resolution because sanctions are problematic, agrees there is a good topic area here, but it is hard to create wording around it…... -There is a motion to now remove implement and-enforce and replace with substantially increase… -The United States federal government should substantially increase anti-human-trafficking sanctions against one or more of the following: Germany, India, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. And now get rid of anti- The United States federal government should substantially increase sanctions against human trafficking sanctions in or more of the following: Germany, India, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. And now change it to sanctions-against (that fails) The United States federal government should substantially increase human trafficking sanctions against one or more of the following: Germany, India, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. The room now votes to attempt to go from 3 topics down to 1 Official working tording now The United States federal government should substantially increase human trafficking sanctions against one or more of the following: Germany, India, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. We now go back to sanctions against The United States federal government should substantially increase sanctions against human trafficking in one or more of the following: Germany, India, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. I have a problem with in…it should be either on or toward. Pam suggests toward, cort disagrees and says on -Toward fails -they vote on on, on passes The United States federal government should substantially increase sanctions against human trafficking on one or more of the following: Germany, India, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. Do we need an its? -Cort says no, if the aff says other countries or UN, that’s cool….. -it gets proposed -it fails Final wording: The United States federal government should substantially increase sanctions against human trafficking on one or more of the following: Germany, India, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. Russia The United States federal government should substantially increase its diplomatic engagement, economic engagement, and/or military engagement with the Russian Federation. Author’s comments -do we need all three forms of engagement in the topic? -Are there bidirectionality issues? -Cort, we don’t need the word engagement three times The United States federal government should substantially increase its diplomatic, economic, and/or military engagement with the Russian Federation. -Me--don’t confuse a limiting mechanism with a limiting of areas -Brian’s suggestion, get rid of diplomatic -It passes The United States federal government should substantially increase its economic and/or military engagement with the Russian Federation. --Final wording ----Break Nuclear Weapons Strategy The United States federal government should establish a policy substantially changing its nuclear weapons strategy. Cort-should we substantially change nuclear weapons (eliminate establish a policy) New wording The United States federal government should substantially change its nuclear weapons strategy. -Can we move beyond strategy? -More/less are those part of strategy -We are OK with change in this instance since it is more limited in the area of nuclear weapons strategy -What is non-T counterplan ground? -Consult X and crickets….. -Had a good conversation with the author at lunch and some of my concerns are minimized -Is this a domestic topic -Looking at the phrase strategy, yes but its not the intent…. Final answer: The United States federal government should substantially change its nuclear weapons strategy. No callback Cryptocurrency The International Monetary Fund should lead the G-20 in a coordinated response to cryptocurrency regulations. Author (Eric by Proxy) -what can the IMF do? -should establish binding regulations of cryptocurrencies New proposal: The International Monetary Fund should establish binding regulations of cryptocurrencies. -Is there enough lit to sustain an entire year of this? -Yes, its happening everyday -They are meeting in november….there is a potential for inherency to be undermined -My suggestion is we should have a list of things based on cryptocurrencies and just not the currency itself -There is some agreement of looking at a list, but there was some stalling. Sam: Do they have the ability to create binding regulations -Rich: the aff gives them the power to do so. -Others in the room, say they can offer suggestions, but countries have to opt in Me: can we get rid of the word binding -They vote to adopt the second resolution, and remove the word binding New wording: The International Monetary Fund should establish regulations of cryptocurrencies. -I beg the group to give this a callback -they then vote on getting rid of the s on regulations New wording: The International Monetary Fund should establish regulation of cryptocurrencies. -The callback fails, the final wording passes Treaties The United States federal government should ratify or accede to, and implement, one or more of the following: Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, Paris Agreement under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, Trans-Pacific Partnership, United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. -My suggestion, get rid of the Disabilities treaty, and then look at replacing New wording The United States federal government should ratify or accede to, and implement, one or more of the following: Paris Agreement under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, Trans-Pacific Partnership, United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. -Passes with 4 Arms Sales Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially reduce direct commercial and/or foreign military sales of arms from the United States. -Both should be Capitalized Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially reduce Direct Commercial Sales and/or Foreign Military Sales of arms from the United States. --Break for lunch, be back at 1 India The United States federal government should substantially increase its development and/or military assistance to the Republic of India. -Cort: Should the topic be intergovernmental aid or not? -Military should be governmental -Does DA to non-governmental authorities explode the topic list, maybe not. -Rich: India is trying to change to being a giver of DA and not a recipient -We can look at things like dutch disease and rent seeking Author-Really is tied to assistance more than anything else -There is a discussion about development and the links to the K argument -Is legislating it into the topic bad? -Economic assistance or Humanitarian Aid or Foreign Aid….are those other instances -I argue that we are trading fear of the K for a less limiting term to read an aff that reps still links to the K Topic accepted as written. Water The United States federal government should substantially increase its aid to improve water resources in one or more of the Least Developed Countries in Asia and/or Oceania. Alternative wording: The United States federal government should substantially increase its water resource management aid to one or more of the following countries: Egypt, Iraq, Niger, Pakistan, Somalia, and/or Sudan. Author -She wants to include Africa because it is much more important -Their def of LDC is not crucial to water, but water resource management aid is Me -I suggest changing aid to assistance, deleting countries and inserting a colon, and eliminating the oxford comma. -Who writes about US action? -What does neg ground look like? -should resource(s) be Committee moves to play with the new wording: The United States federal government should substantially increase its water resource management aid to one or more of the following countries: Egypt, Iraq, Niger, Pakistan, Somalia, and/or Sudan. -Change resources to s, -Integrated seems to be a more narrow subset of WRM, because IWRM has a bigger subset to play with, and WRM allows you to develop a more specific strategy for each country -Get rid of the and/or Next batch of changes: The United States federal government should substantially increase its water resource management assistance to one or more of the following: Egypt, Iraq, Niger, Pakistan, Somalia, South Sudan. Middle East The United States federal government should substantially increase its development assistance toward one or more of the following countries: Iran, Saudi Arabia and/or Syria. -Author: we should change development assistance -Colton’s alternative: Foreign Aid -My Alternative: Constructive Engagment Committee moves to change the topic to: The United States federal government should substantially increase its constructive engagement toward one or more of the following countries: Iran, Saudi Arabia and/or Syria. Now a discussion of with vs toward, fails Now a discussion of taking the word countries out and and/or:--Passes The United States federal government should substantially increase its constructive engagement toward one or more of the following: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria. With/toward -this debate literally lasts 10 minutes, it passes to eliminate toward The United States federal government should substantially increase its constructive engagement with one or more of the following: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria. Final Slate of topics headed into Sunday that pass the straw poll:---All 13 pass….. (with notes) Lethal Force The United States federal government should substantially curtail its use of deadly force in other countries. International Organizations The United States federal government should substantially increase its support of one or more of the following: United Nations Environment Programme, World Bank, World Health Organization. -do we need to get rid of the comma -Sam, suggests add one or more of the following and strike and/or -Tim does not like lists of 3 -Stephanie requests the removing the “the’s” after the comma -the posted wording is the now correct Supreme Court and Foreign Policy The Supreme Court of the United States should overturn one or more of its decisions in at least one of the following areas: unlawful enemy combatants, enforcement of treaties, customary international law, extraterritorial application of United States law. Arctic The United States federal government should substantially increase its support of international cooperation in the Arctic. -I ask about support for vs support of -Move it, and it passes Human Trafficking The United States federal government should substantially increase sanctions against human trafficking on one or more of the following: Germany, India, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. Russia The United States federal government should substantially increase its economic and/or military engagement with the Russian Federation. Nuclear Weapons The United States federal government should substantially change its nuclear weapons strategy. Cryptocurrencies The International Monetary Fund should establish regulation of cryptocurrencies. -There is a motion to include substantial before regulation -The lawyers say it is not a thing -it fails Treaties The United States federal government should ratify or accede to, and implement, one or more of the following: Paris Agreement under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, Trans-Pacific Partnership, United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. -There are questions about what to do with commas -ratify, or accede to, and implement is the suggestion, the college topic Arms Sales The United States federal government should substantially reduce Direct Commercial Sales and/or Foreign Military of arms from the United States. India The United States federal government should substantially increase its development and/or military assistance to the Republic of India Water The United States federal government should substantially increase its water resources management assistance to one or more of the following: Egypt, Iraq, Niger, Pakistan, Somalia, South Sudan. Middle East The United States federal government should substantially increase its constructive engagement with one or more of the following: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan. We just finished the day's manipulation of topics. Here are the final topics proposed for voting tomorrow. A reminder of tomorrow's procedure:
-Each state/organization gets to vote for the 5 topics they desire. -We will go from 13 to 7 (first ballot) -We will go from 7 to 6 (second ballot) -We will go from 6 to 5 (final ballot). This post will have just the final wordings. In a subsequent post, I will have the notes from discussions. In a third post, I will have my comments on the ranking of the topics: Lethal Force The United States federal government should substantially curtail its use of deadly force in other countries. International Organizations The United States federal government should substantially increase its support of one or more of the following: United Nations Environment Programme, World Bank, World Health Organization. Supreme Court and Foreign Policy The Supreme Court of the United States should overturn one or more of its decisions in at least one of the following areas: unlawful enemy combatants, enforcement of treaties, customary international law, extraterritorial application of United States law. Arctic The United States federal government should substantially increase its support of international cooperation in the Arctic. Human Trafficking The United States federal government should substantially increase sanctions against human trafficking on one or more of the following: Germany, India, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia. Russia The United States federal government should substantially increase its economic and/or military engagement with the Russian Federation. Nuclear Weapons The United States federal government should substantially change its nuclear weapons strategy. Cryptocurrencies The International Monetary Fund should establish regulation of cryptocurrencies. Treaties The United States federal government should ratify or accede to, and implement, one or more of the following: Paris Agreement under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, Trans-Pacific Partnership, United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. Arms Sales The United States federal government should substantially reduce Direct Commercial Sales and/or Foreign Military of arms from the United States. India The United States federal government should substantially increase its development and/or military assistance to the Republic of India Water The United States federal government should substantially increase its water resources management assistance to one or more of the following: Egypt, Iraq, Niger, Pakistan, Somalia, South Sudan. Middle East The United States federal government should substantially increase its constructive engagement with one or more of the following: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan. Topics that came out of the Marshall Subcommittees: This is the order from website, ballots, etc.
Lethal Force (used to be Military Authority) The United States federal government should substantially curtail its lethal use of force in foreign countries. American Support for International Organizations The United States federal government should substantially increase its material support to one or more of the following: United Nations Environmental Programme, World Bank, World Health Organization. -took out refugees because it would be a huge part of this year’s immigration topic. Supreme Court and Foreign Policy Resolved: The Supreme Court of the United States should overturn one or more of the following: Ex Parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 (1942), Zivotofsky v. Kerry, 576 U.S. ___ (2015), Zivotofsky v. Clinton, 566 U.S. 189 (2012), Medellín v. Texas, 552 U.S. 491 (2008), United States v. Alvarez-Machain, 504 U.S. 655 (1992) or Sosa v. Alvarez-Machain, 542 U.S. 692 (2004). OR Resolved: The Supreme Court of the United States should overturn one or more of its decisions in one or more of the following areas: unlawful enemy combatants, enforcement of treaties, customary international law, extraterritorial application of United States law. Are we concerned with the words DA? This will be up to the room tomorrow for a final direction. Arctic/Arctic Council Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially increase its support for international cooperation on sustainable development in the Arctic. -Is the phrasing support for international coop on--the way to go? -We want bilateral and multilateral cooperation to be topical -The broader formulation of including outside of the arctic council might make for broader aff ground International Policies on Human Trafficking Resolved: The United states federal government should substantially increase its assistance to reduce anti-human-trafficking in Southeast Asia. -need the double hyphen to prevent “trafficking of anti-humans” -Need to have focus -Southeast Asia key to limitation of the scope -And southeast asia is good, it should be included somewhere to debate. -Is there an issue in how you describe how the government acts without creating a resolution that is FX T or the Gov can actually do Russian Federation Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially increase its diplomatic engagement, economic engagement and/or military engagement with the Russian Federation. Weapons of Mass Destruction Resolved: The United States federal government should establish a policy substantially changing its nuclear weapons strategy. -Discussion of direction -Author is OK with floating (change) Cryptocurrencies Resolved: The International Monetary Fund should lead the G-20 in a coordinated response to cryptocurrency regulations. The original paper did not have an international focused action, this comes from a CP strategy in the paper. This helps with the fopo focus of the year. Will be looking into a variety of regulations being proposed now Treaties Resolved: The United States federal government should ratify or accede to, and implement, one or more of the following: Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities, Paris Agreement under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, Trans-Pacific Partnership, United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. Arms Sales Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially reduce its authorization of direct commercial and/or foreign military arms sales. OR Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially reduce direct commercial and/or foreign military arms sales from the United States. India Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially increase its development and/or military assistance to the Republic of India. #1 resolution from paper, changing government of to republic of... Water Access Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially increase its aid to improve water resources in one or more of the Least Developed Countries in Asia and/or Oceania. -Looking at the phrase “aid to improve” -Allows debate over both access and quality -Limiting the scope to include area is key. -LDC--it is an attempt to limit to countries listed by the UN (if there are multiple LDC lists, we would have to insert the “United Nations” -Intentionally took out Africa and Caribbean (Haiti)--Oceana and Australia and the Pacific (odd because Australia is the area, but it wouldn’t be T because its not an LDC) Middle East Policy Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially increase its development assistance toward one or more of the following countries: Iran, Saudi Arabia and/or Syria. |
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